How important is COP30 to investors? In this episode of the Pensions for Purpose podcast, we sit down with Michael Schlup and Johnny Brom from SAIL Investments to talk all about COP and the other key events around this. 

We hear about how COP has evolved, the role of investors, and the other events and announcements that we should look out for. We also dive into the significance of COP30 being held in Brazil, home of the Amazon rainforest and many industries that are extremely nature-dependent. We discuss why we feel optimistic about positive change because of the economic value that nature brings. We also get into some practical examples of what the investment industry can do to drive systemic change, and modify behaviour and mindsets around nature.